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		<title>Visual Studio said to WSDL, &#8220;Size does matter!&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sad to say that as I write this, the information is already irrelavant, however I feel it should be written simply because it is a problem nonetheless.
The circumstances (long story, will post about it later) around the BizTalk 2009 project I&#8217;m working on is forcing us to, most than likely use SOAP adapter [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">I am sad to say that as I write this, the information is already irrelavant, however I feel it should be written simply because it is a problem nonetheless.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">The circumstances (long story, will post about it later) around the BizTalk 2009 project I&#8217;m working on is forcing us to, most than likely use SOAP adapter instead of WCF &#8212; In case you are not aware, the SOAP adapter has been tagged as deprecated in BizTalk 2009 and should not be used with new development.  Nevertheless, it is what it is, we have to make do with the problem at hand.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">The SOAP adapter needs a proxy generated from a WSDL.  In order for the entities to be made available to an Orchestration or Map during design time, the Web Reference must be added to a BizTalk project.  This is where the pain began&#8230;.the WSDLs we are seeing are north of 800KB (i.e. REALLY big WSDL).  That by itself is not a problem, however when the generated entities are used in a BizTalk map, Visual Studio 2008 SP1 will spin for 10 &#8211; 20 minutes and try to consume every bit of RAM available before throwing a very frustruction System.OutOfMemoryException.  Don&#8217;t understand it, and absolutely can&#8217;t work around it.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">To see for yourself:</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">1. Create a BizTalk project</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">2. Add Web Reference to a large (&gt; 500kb) WSDL</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">3. Create a Map and transform anything into an entity created during step #2.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">4. Hit build and enjoy the show</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">For the record, my development environment consists of Windows 2003 Enterprise x64 with 3.75GB of RAM.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">I will update if/when I find a workaround.</div>
<p>I am sad to say that as I write this, the information is already irrelavant, however I feel it should be written simply because it is a problem nonetheless.</p>
<p>The circumstances (long story, will post about it later) around the BizTalk 2009 project I&#8217;m working on is forcing us to, most than likely use SOAP adapter instead of WCF &#8212; In case you are not aware, the SOAP adapter has been tagged as <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa559720(BTS.10).aspx" target="_blank">deprecated in BizTalk 2009</a> and should not be used with new development.  Nevertheless, it is what it is, we have to make do with the problem at hand.</p>
<p>The SOAP adapter need a proxy generated from a WSDL.  In order for the entities to be made available to an Orchestration or Map during design time, the Web Reference must be added to a BizTalk project.  This is where the pain began&#8230;.the WSDLs we are seeing are north of 800KB (i.e. REALLY big WSDL).  That by itself is not a problem, however when the generated entities are used in a BizTalk map, Visual Studio 2008 SP1 will spin for 10 &#8211; 20 minutes and try to consume every bit of RAM available before throwing a very frustruction System.OutOfMemoryException.  Don&#8217;t understand it, and absolutely can&#8217;t work around it.</p>
<p>To see for yourself:</p>
<p>1. Create a BizTalk project<br />
2. Add Web Reference to a large (&gt; 500kb) WSDL<br />
3. Create a Map and transform anything into an entity created during step #2.<br />
4. Hit build and enjoy the show</p>
<p>For the record, my development environment consists of Windows 2003 Enterprise x64 with 3.75GB of RAM.</p>
<p>I know what you are thinking, may be we should pare down the WSDL.  Well, let just say the 3rd party vendor can&#8217;t do that.  I will update if/when I find a workaround.</p>
<p>Update 09/14/2009:  One of my colleague figured this out.  The root of the problem is a bunch of circular reference in the schema &#8212; Entity A contain Entity B, B contain Entity C, C contain A.  This is a known deficiency in the .NET XMLSerializer.</p>
<p>Update 09/18/2009:  A bunch of test later, it looks like WSDL size is a problem at design time (i.e. can&#8217;t compile) and circular reference is a problem at run time (i.e. SOAP Adapter can&#8217;t serialize the message using XMLSerializer).</p>
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		<title>Installing ESB 2.0 CTP2 on x64</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eip</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Tech]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[BizTalk 2009]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Took me a 2 days to figure this out, so thought to pass it along.  If you try to install Enterprise Service Bus Guidance 2.0 CTP2 on x64, it will throw an error similar to &#8220;The Application required Enterprise Library version 4.  Please install the Enterprise Library V4 and then run the installer.&#8221;

The problem is that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Took me a 2 days to figure this out, so thought to pass it along.  If you try to install <a href="http://www.codeplex.com/esb" target="_blank">Enterprise Service Bus Guidance 2.0</a> CTP2 on x64, it will throw an error similar to &#8220;The Application required Enterprise Library version 4.  Please install the Enterprise Library V4 and then run the installer.&#8221;</div>
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<div>The problem is that the MSI is looking for this registry key:</div>
<div>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Enterprise Library v4</div>
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<div>While EntLib created the key here:</div>
<div>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\<strong>Wow6432Node</strong>\Microsoft\Enterprise Library v4</div>
<div></div>
<div>So&#8230;create the key and string values yourself.  Enjoy!</div>
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